why would the complexity of the universe demand a creator but not the complexity of the creator?
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the creator must logically be more complex that the universe. so if complexity is proof of design and cant appear by itself then the creator must necessarily have been designed too. If the creator has always existed then the same argument could be used for the universe rendering a creator redundant.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
because logic and faith are almost irreconcilable
November 12th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
The last line is rather incongruent but I agree with the rest though I suspect our inferences would be completely different.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:28 am
ah such paradox! the universe made by a god an a god made by the universe. this proves only one thing: both exists. this is like asking which came first the chicken or the egg?
the chicken which created the egg must be more complex than the egg. the chicken cant appear by itself then the chicken must have been designed too.
we can compare the universe to the chicken and god to an egg. the creation of an egg will lead to the subsequent creation of the chicken. the chicken will then have to lay an egg sometime in the future, in anyways the answer to your question is relatively simple.
The complexity of the universe demand a creator, because such complex array of objects in exsistence can never be justified by anything other than it was created, while the complexity of the creator cannot demand a universe is because we cannot observe the creator. we can only perceive the creator through his creations. the universe on the other hand we can observe. we see molecules made by atoms, atoms made of particles, particles create, galaxies, nebulas, stars, planets, life, and so on. these things we can observe. but not one human alive can say that the creator is complex, or the creator is simple, simply because the creator cannot be seen. all the things that we have on our creator are purely speculation made by a purely mortal mind with not a shred of fact in it…
November 18th, 2009 at 1:36 am
I see a few problems here, first would be how complex was the universe at time of its creation for it could be that the complexity did not come until later. Also there are plenty of examples that simple things can lead to more complex things, I think that is made apparent by the theory of evolution, I do not agree that my single cell ancestors were more complex than I.
I am not saying your reasoning is not valid I just thought I would try to help by pointing out a possible flaw and an apparent deviation that occurs in nature.
November 18th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
how does handle a long term relationship, living together 5 years and in love, when one person wants to get married and have kids one day and the other person does not. The other person grew up in a divorced family and was the”man of the house” what to do?
November 20th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
God is absolutely simple. Who you been drinkin with. In fact Jesus appeared once to,I think it was, St Catherine of Siena and said, Catherine, you are complex, I am simple.
You are concocting smoke in your head and scorning the great thinkers to boot. Good luck with that.